Monday, January 2, 2012

Come along for the ride, once again - Kivy and Notion Ink



I have much to write, from NI's "compensation" to its TR ICS developers to my sad "divorce" from TR, but first let's turn our attention to Notion Ink's latest blockbuster post.

This is what I inferred from the posts, and you can comment on the merits of these statements. The text in "italics" is the original text from the blog post

1. "Notion Ink is an active contributor for this project" All I could gather from the reading & looking at Kivy's own site, is that Notion Ink is giving an year-old ADAM as the 1st prize in the contest (sorry, winners). I also checked the Kivy github AUTHORS file and it's not clear to me what NI is contributing to code or design. From Kivy's own blog, all they say is "The contest is sponsored by NotionInk, an indian company that designs tablets PCs" - which would be an odd way to phrase it if Notion Ink was actively contributing to the project. Are they giving development money? Code? Design inputs? I think I'll ask Kivy.

2. What does this have to do with Adam development? I mean I can get onto github or sourceforge and find tons of interesting projects. What does this directly have to do with Adam or its future? He says mentions Eden/Genesis again, but we've heard about that several times in the past.  So, once again, mumbo-jumbo nonsense of some other interesting project with no clue on what this means to Adam - considering that they can't seem to even build their own IC. And let me bring your attention to the fact that in the past he's talked about BLISS, YAGO, Genesis etc. none which have gotten anywhere. Here is a past para from the April 16 2011 post "We’re be working on the fascinating fields of the natural language processing, relationship extractions, algorithms like YAGO and snow-ball, and the dream behind all our efforts, the BLISS system."  What happened to all that? Who cares. Kivy is the latest. Fans too timid to ask.

3. "This is going to be a very impressive year, specially because it will let me explain what are we doing, finally!" - so for the last 3 years...?!

4. "We have been rather quiet on what’s happening at our end on future products and developments, but today I want to share a rather unique project called Kivy" - I still don't understand what this post has to do with future products or developments. The sentence seems to infer that somehow Kivy was linked to Notion Ink but it absolutely does not seem so. It's a "flash like" equivalent UI framework for multi-touch devices. Perhaps NI wants to use it in the mythical Genesis but nothing in the post has anything to do, as far as I can see, with Notion Ink. Happy to be corrected.

5. "Remember the earlier reference to Python?" Actually I do. Here's what he said (Sep 17 2011) - "For reasons which will soon be obvious, our love for a parsentongue, python has grown exponentially" OK first of all that sentence makes little sense - it's not parsentoungue, it's actually parseltongue and I can see no connection between parseltongue and kivy. So no, reasons weren't obvious at all. Maybe he meant love for python has grown.

Finally, I could not but resist this. Read the 2 sponsor blurbs from the Kivy site:

Notion Ink is the rebellion in you! It's your firm doing what you wanted to do. It is dissolving the emptiness which otherwise fills up our lives. It is the guilt in you which says, let's realize our dreams. Technically an upcoming OEM, but philosophically, we are designers who hack engineering, just like you!


Github is a web-based hosting service for software development projects that use the Git revision control system. Github offers both commercial plans and free accounts for open source projects.

See the difference? I spoke of this once before back in May! When you read github's blurb - simple, easy to understand, you know what they do. Read Notion Ink's - it's utter bombastic nonsense.  Dissolving emptiness in our lives? I can tell you what - they're doing that mightily well with their customers who are spending good portions of their lives ROMing, flashing, formatting and what not to get their device to work. Hehe.

9 comments:

  1. That blurb just reads like spam. I don't know if they use the same jargonator. I am no longer panning NI actively, but I was mightily tempted by this post.

    Now talking about TR, it seems that the admins there are getting very sanctimonious. Of course, it is their portal and we have been nasty and all that, but too much moderation ultimately results in people turning away.

    I have been happily supporting developers who have made my life with the Adam easier, but it seems that the total cost of ownership has gone up so much that there was no point, in retrospect, of buying it in the first place. It gives rise to a curious situation: on one hand, I am thankful to the community for giving up their precious time and developing new ROMs, while on the other hand, it has become sacrilege to complain, even if it is has nothing to do with the developers.

    I think I should be spending much more time offline.

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  2. Hahaha, I love that picture! Brilliant. The last one should be up top.

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  3. Another year, same shit. Another year, same tricks. Another year, same nonsense.
    Rohan Shravan Pandey strikes again with his impossible dreams, broken promises and all his crazy followers can inhale, ingest and digest to achieve 'The ultimate tablet nirvana'.
    This is just the beginning. Pandey will soon reveal how he deciphered Mayan prophecy to save the world.

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  4. I have been reading TR and it appears that all their admins are on board with Adam. They never like any comments against adam and they always try to spin that they are a wonderful company and blah, blah. I'm not sure if they are with the users of their site or became shill for NI.

    One more thing, you can never ever criticize their work. When they release code for public domain with their site screaming ads, it doesn't really matter you pay for it or not. You should be able to give positive or negative opinion on the things you downloaded. I dont like the fact they are like gods and they can never be criticized. If that is the case, we should take our business elsewhere where the developers are not pussys.

    With that, you can never criticize TR and NI cant deliver any decent software, what do you get after paying $450?

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  5. That's what happens when there's conflict of interest. I'll post more on this later.

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  6. Your wish (this time) is my command, good sir.

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  7. It's awesome there. I love it. I think we should have a wallpaper edition for the fans.

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  8. It seems as though the Aakash has already come out and taken India by storm with a massive amount of orders. Well, the other half have already gone out and bought the Sony, iPad, Samsung offerings. The rest are holding out for iPad 3 or the Asus Quad Core.

    Where is there space left for Adam, even if they Kivy it up.

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  9. gpk4soc, I must say, in TR's defence, that neither are the developers and admins there in a contract with their users, nor have they always been immune to constructive criticism and feedback. Some of what you are saying may therefore be unwarranted.

    The problem that some of us have been facing is the increasingly sanctimonious attitudes, and in some cases, elitism. Till recently, the people on TR were nice when you interacted with them. However, the advent of ICS has suddenly changed behaviours. To some extent, the admins may be justified in trying to cull negative and nonconstructive comments, especially of the kind that used to demand a working camera or those that set out on a personal vendetta. However, what we are seeing these days is admin activism, a bit like aggressive positive discrimination.

    I am all for conversation discipline, non-inflammatory comments and containing the trolls. However, I am afraid that the admins have started down a slippery slope, and may end up in moderation mayhem if they don't take corrective action soon.

    If anybody needs to know how these problems develop over time, look up the history of the chat and forums (now discontinued) on Richard Dawkins's website http://richarddawkins.net.

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